The Hine Family

HINE  (1550?- )

1  HINE (1550?- ).

  Born 1550 (app), Alstonefield ?

  Died.

(unknown).

1.1  John HINE (1585?-1640).

  Born 1585 (app), Alstonefield ?

  Marr Ellen MICHELL 31 May 1615, Alstonefield.

  Died 1640, of Pyeclough, Alstonefield.

Ellen MICHELL (1590?-1660).

  Born 1590 (app), Horton, Staffs.

  Died Nov 1660, Alstonefield.

  Buried 15 Nov 1660, Alstonefield.

1.1.1  Thomas HINE (1616?-1690).

  Born 1616 (app), Alstonefield ?

  Marr Ann ANNIE BREWERTON BRERETON 29 Oct 1652, Alstonefield.

  Died Jan 1690, Alstonefield.

  Buried 21 Jan 1690, Alstonefield.

? Ellen ? ? (1620?-1650?).

  Born 1620 (app), Staffs ?

  Died 1650 (app), Staffs ?

1.1.1.1  Ann HINE (b.1639?, bur.1659).

  Born 1639 (app).

  Buried 1659, Alstonefield.

1.1.1.2  Ellen HINE (1645?-1737).

  Born 1645 (app), Staffs ?

  Marr John GENT 1667 (app), Staffs ?

  Died 1737, Leek.

Family rift? She makes a claim after admon of John's estate to s.Wm. At dth she is living with kinsman Robert Brough, & leaves nothing to chn.

John GENT (1644-1713).

  Born 1644, Overhulme, Leek, Staffs.

  Died 31 Oct 1713, Overhulme, Leek, Staffs.

  Buried 3 Nov 1713, Leek, Staffs.

  Bap 26 Sep 1744, Leek.

Family rift? Ellen seems to make a claim after admon of John's estate to s.Wm. At dth she is living with kinsman Robert Brough, & leaves nothing to chn.

1.1.1.3  Richard HINE (1647?- ).

  Born 1647 (app).

(unknown).

Ann ANNIE BREWERTON BRERETON (1630?-1660).

  Born 1630 (app), Staffs ?

  Died Mar 1660, Alstonefield.

  Buried 5 Mar 1660, Alstonefield.

1.1.1.4  Elizabeth HINE (1650?- ).

  Born 1650 (app), Alstonfield.

  Marr Robert BROUGH 11 Nov 1674, Leek.

Robert BROUGH (1645?- ).

  Born 1645 (app), Leek ?

1.1.1.5  John HINE (1650?-1678?).

  Born 1650 (app).

  Marr Elizabeth WOOD 13 May 1674, Alstonefield.

  Died 1678 (app), Hardingsbooth, Alstonefield ?

Elizabeth WOOD (1655?- ).

  Born 1655 (app), Staffs ?

fl.1690.

1.1.1.6  James HINE (1658?-1658).

  Born 1658 (app).

  Died Aug 1658.

  Buried 24 Aug 1658, Alstonefield.

1.1.1.7  Thomas HINE (b.1660?, bur.1669).

  Born 1660 (app).

  Buried 17 Feb 1669, Alstonefield.

1.2  Thomas HINE (1580?-1638).

  Born 1580 (app).

  Died 1638, of Pyeclough, Alstonefield.

m (ii) Joan. Mentions people in will, but not relationship. Bro & his son are John & Thos (ours).

                                     Wills from Lichfield May 2014

Will Thomas Hyne of the Pyeclough parish of Alstonfield made 5^th March 1636/7 proved 10 April 1638

Beneficiaries: Johne/Joane my now wife....£16 & all my interest & tythe to all the messuage......& lands …..known by the name of the Banke Top at Pyeclough...also the half of all my bedding.....

to Thomas

-to Thomas Brunte(?*) £3

- to Francis Brunte (?*) 40s.

-to Joane Brunte(?*) daughter of Richard Brunte(?*) 40s.

-to Elizabeth Cheshire daughter of William Cheshire deceased 10s

-to Thomas Brunte(?*) son of William Brunte(?*) 6s 8d

-to the 3 children of John Bolton £9

-to William Brunte(?*) my wife's son 4 nobles** of lawful money

-to Thomas Fitchett(?) the elder of Longnor 10s.

After payment of debts & funeral expenses the rest of my goods.........to John Hyne my brother  and unto Thomas Hyne his son to be divided betwixt them

John Hyne and Thomas Hyne to be executors.

George Goodwyn the elder of Longnor & William Brereton of Balebanke (?)to be supervisors

With inventory including list of debtors.

?* We struggled with this surname,but the only rational name I can come up with is 'Brunt'.There were certainly many Brunts in the area,and a Thomas Brunt and William Brunt are listed among the debtors..See also John Hyne's will,below.

** A noble was a gold coin apparently worth about 6s 8d

p.2 Wills from Lichfield

John Hyne of Pyeclough parish of Alstonfield husbandman made 17 May 1640,proved Sept. 3 1640

-to Ellen my well beloved wife £3 for her natural life to be paid by my executors.............executors to maintain  her-she is also to have the bed & bed clothes........

- to my grandchild Anne Hine 10 (s?)

-all the rest of my goods.......to Thomas Hine my son-sole executor

With inventory appraised by George Goodwin,William Brereton,Francis Brunt

Thomas Hinde of Pieclough head parish of Alstonfield husbandman made 10 Jan. 1689/90 proved March 27 1690

-to Ann Hinde daughter of John Hinde £10

-to Ellen Hinde younger daughter of John Hinde £10  -when they reach 21.

-to Ellen Gent my daughter £5

-to Elizabeth Brough my daughter £5

-to Ann Brunt daughter of John Brunt 20s

-to Elizabeth Brunt her sister 20s

-to Mary Brunt youngest of them three 20s

-to Elizabeth Hinde wife to John Hinde deceased 1s

-to my son Richard Hinde all my possessions called by the names of Bank top & Pieclough head & Gibtor.

-Thomas Hind son of the above said Richard Hinde to have & enjoy all those possessions above named after the decease of the said Richard.

-if Elizabeth Hinde mother to the said Ann Hinde & Ellen Hinde shall offer to molest or disturb the said Richard Hinde by suit of law or other disturbance my will is that the above said £20 to her two daughters Ann and Ellen shall be void.

Son Richard to be in charge of my burial and to be executor

With inventory appraised by John Brunt & Cornelius Goodwyn.

Other wills/letters of administration studied -Hines

We also looked at the following but did not obtain copies:

Inventory and administration- William Hine of Warslow parish of Alstonfield husbandman

6 Dec.1633

Appraised by James Hine, Ottewell  …..........? & Richard Burton.

Administration granted to Elizabeth Hind of Warslow wid. & 'Richardus Burton de Warsloe husbandman'

John Hynde of Hardingsbooth parish of Alstonfield yeoman11 April 1678

Administration granted to Elizabeth Hynd relict of John Hynd late of Hardingsbooth deceased.

With inventory & list of debts 17 Feb. 1676

This could be the John and Elizabeth Hind referred to in the will of Thomas Hinde(1690,above).Hardingsbooth is about 2 miles from Pyeclough,on the road towards Longnor.

Will Lawrence Hyne of Heasegate parish of Alstonfield 24 Oct. 1629,proved Nov.11 1629

-to my brother Richard £11  5s(?)

-to Elizabeth Meallor daughter of James Mealler £6

-to William Fynney & James Fynney sonnes to my cozen Richard Fynn(e)y £10 16s to be equally divided between them.

p.3 Wills from Lichfield

Will Lawrence Hyne cont...

-to Richard Tatton & his son William £10 6s

-to Johane Tatton £6   8d(?)

- to every godchild 12d

-to Thomas Fynney 20 nobles

 Richard Fynney of Heasgate (Heasyate?) my cousin & Richard Hyne my brother to be sole executors.

Witnesses  John Fynney,William Fynney,Richard Tatton.

Debts owed to the said Lawrence Hyne for which he hath no security for:

James  ----------?smith of Warslow 20s(?)

James Hyne £14 4d

Henry Tatton £10

William Bullock £37

'Heasgate' is probably Hayesgate,near Hulme End and not far from Warslow. I cannot see an obvious connection  at this point between Lawrence Hyne or William Hine (1633,above) and the Hines of Pyeclough,but it is worth bearing these families in mind.

The Hines of Pyeclough

Clearly Thomas Hin(d)e of Pieclough/Pyeclough whose will was proved in March 1690 was the father of Ellen Gent née Hine.I found his burial in Alstonfield parish register:

Alstonfield p.r. Transcript Burials 1689-90

Jan. 21 1689/90 Thos Hine,de Pie Clough,in ye church sep.

I also found the burial of John of Hardingsbooth who died in 1676/7

Alstonfield p.r. Transcript Burials 1676-8

Jan. 11 1676/7 John Hyne,of Hardings-Booth bur.

Unfortunately there seems to be a gap in the burial register between March 4 1625 and 5 Jan. 1638/9 so it was not possibly to look for the burial of the earlier Thomas Hin(d)e. There was no sign of the burial of John Hine in 1640-in fact I could see no Hine burials 1638/9- April 19 1659.

Alstonfield marriage register  1601-May 13 1674(again taken from the transcript) gives us the following entries:

John Hyne of A(lstonfield) & Helenam Michell,of Horton,mar. May 31 1615

May 13 1674 John Hyne of Pyclough & Eliz Wood of Hardingsbooth marr.

There is a gap in the marriage register from April 2 1620- Feb. 9 1638.

John Hyne who married Elizabeth Wood in 1674 could be the John who died in January 1676/7-if so this could explain why Thomas(will,1690) was keen to provide for his daughters Ann and Ellen.

John Hyne who married as above in 1615 is most probably the John Hine who left a will in 1640,providing for his wife Ellen.His son Thomas mentioned in the will could be Thomas who died in 1690,father of Ellen.If Ellen Gent née Hine was born at the earliest around 1633,if Thomas was born c. 1615 this would just  be possible,though she may not have been quite as old as her supposed aged of 104 at her burial in 1737 would suggest...

   Whatever the exact relationship,it is clear that the property of Pyeclough was passed down through the family in the 17^th century. There may be other sources which could assist us here. Pyeclough is close to Longnor,where there was an early church but unfortunately the register before 1691 has been lost.

   I looked at the early baptisms in Alstonfield,but again there is a gap.I found just one Hin(d)e entry:

Alstonfield p.r. Transcript baptisms 1602-Sept. 24 1626 (after this,gap to Sept. 23 1638)

Apr. 6 1603 'Thomasiae' d. of John & Joane Hynde,of Mildale,sheepharde(sic.) bap.

Assuming this is the same Milldale,there is a place called Milldale very close to Alstonfield village,on the Derbyshire border.As Alstonfield was a large parish,this is some distance from Pyeclough.Milldale is however quite close to Alsop in the Dale (see wills list,above).

                                                                                                 Sara F.Scargill May 19 2014 (tbc)

    At Stafford I then looked at the Hearth Tax transcript for 1666 and found no Hines/Hinds listed under Alstonfield,Longnor or Warslow but I did find an entry under Fawfield Head-it is not 100% clear but I believe this area would probably have included Pyeclough.

Highfeild (Fawfield Head) (sic.)

Thomas Hinde and Rap: Highome (sic.) 2

The above entry is slightly unusual but would seem to suggest that they might have jointly owned the house. It may be worth trying to find out more about Rap (Ralph?) Highome(Higham/Heigham perhaps?)- I have had a quick look at the staffsnamesindex wills index and Family search but cannot see any very likely candidates.

     Regarding parish records, I have already looked at Alstonfield parish registers which only provided a few entries regarding the Hine /Hind family. They would in fact have been closer to Longnor (a chapelry of Alstonfield) but again we find that though the church is much older,the parish registers only date from 1691 so many of the details concerning the Hine/Hind family may lie in records which have not survived. Once again Quarnford parish register dating from 1744 does not help,though there are numerous Hind references in the index to the transcript.

Turners/Gents from Leek parish register transcript vol.1

Though I was concentrating on the Grindys,when looking at Leek parish register I noted the following entries relating to the Turner and Gent families-there were more entries relating to both surnames but these are of most likely relevance. As I was not systematically searching for these families at the time it could be useful to re-check at some point and search further back  in the transcript,if you don't already have this information.

July 24 1662 The wife of Ralph Turner of Paddock (sic.) p. Ipstones bur.

Dec. 29 1668 James f. Ralph Turner of Padwick p. Ibstones (sic.) bp.

Clearly both these originate from the Turners of Padwick

Gents:  Oct. 16 1668 John f. John Gent of Overhulme bp.

           Apr. 29 1670  Will f.....of the above...................bp.

           Dec. 2 1675 A son of John Gent of Ou hulme(sic.) bap.

           Nov. 4 1681 Tho. f. John & Ellen Gent of Ou hulme bap.

Aug. 191668 Tho Gent of Leekmoorside,miller at Upperhulme, & Mary Basick p. Alstonfield mar.

Nov. 2 1668 William Condcliffe & Mary Gent of Over Hulme mar.

                                                                                                 Sara F.Scargill 16 October 2014

Sherwin

The link with the Sherwin family came with the marriage of John Janney to Agnes Sherwin 20 Jan. 1577/8,but it seems there were links between the two families in later generations.

Margaret Sherwin of Ipstones widow made March 25 1640 proved Sept. 3 1640

to Ann (?) Sherwin my daughter £20,bedding,3 silver spoons +++

to son William Sherwin £10 & all my corn now growing

to son Henry £5

p.5 Wills from Lichfield

Will Margaret Sherwin cont.

to son Francis £6 13s 4d

to son Philip £6 13s 4d to be paid 4 years after my decease

sons James,John,Richard.

Daughter in law Margaret Sherwin

Robert Fernyhough my godson.

John Sherwin and William Sherwin my sons to be executors.

John Janney (signed,in a good and quite elaborate hand) was one of the appraisers of the inventory,dated 25^th July 1640.

James Sherwin of Hay house parish of Ipstones yeoman made 11 Jan. 1695 proved 28 April 1696

Brother William Sherwin

Sister Anne Sherwin

Friend William Brindley of Boothes yeoman

Rest of estate to brother Richard Sherwin.

Brother Richard and friend William Brindley to be executors.

Witnesses Thomas Fernihough,Penelope Goodwin,John Goodwin.

With inventory.

I have not as yet had time to search the wills index before 1640 for further Sherwins. The staffsnamesindexes website also includes the will of Richard Sherwin,6 May 1724,Ipstones,but I have not as yet looked at this one. Family search shows the baptism of Gulielmus Sherwin s. Jacobi & Margaret Sherwin,March 1613 at Ipstones so I can look at this and any earlier Sherwins in the Tale of Ipstones. Agnes Sherwin who married John Janney in 1677/8 clearly belongs to an earlier generation.

Grundy/Grindy

I first looked at the will of John Grindey of Middlehulme (proved 14 Feb 1758) .I have not obtained a copy as you have advised me a full transcript (which I have now seen) is on the Thorn Gent website.The significance of this will is of course that it mentions his sister Jane Gent,as well as nephews and nieces (Gent & Gould) and the codicil mentions his father Clulow Grindy ( a transcript of his will also being on the Thorn Gent website).Incidentally the Gent family tree seems to indicate that Clulow Grindy's father was John Grindy but whether this is taken from some other source  or  is a mistake derived from the fact John Grindy(above) named his father as Clulow Grindy is uncertain.

 

As summarised above (you also have a copy) William Grundy of Baslow,gentleman left a will in 1682.Clearly this cannot be the William Grundy of Baslow referred to in Clulow Grundy's will of 1728,but he could be a descendant. Unless it is simply a coincidence of names it seems likely that there is a connection between the two families. William's son Thomas was a minor in 1682,but Family search shows a William son of Thomas bp. 28 Oct. 1693 in Baslow,also a marriage of Thomas Grundy to Maria Froggett in May 1694 in Baslow. There is also a Maria daughter of 'C.Grundy' bp. Baslow in 1681.It would at some point be worth looking at Baslow parish registers to confirm these and to see whether there are any other Grundys/Grindys. Another interesting point from William's will is that he mentions his farm at Corbar where his mother is living. From the staffsnames indexes list I see a Thomas Grundy of 'Corber' left a will in 1688,also a George Grundy of Corbar in 1721.These may be worth a look,but on this occasion we looked at other Grindey wills,as below:

p.6 Wills from Lichfield

William Grundi of Ipstones,parish of Ipstones husbandman made 4^th September 1640,proved

March 18 1640/1

-to James Grundie my son £3

-to Anne Grundie my daughter £3

-to Ruth Grundy my daughter £3 (or £4?)

Remainder to Elizabeth my wife and my five children equally to be divided.

Executors Thomas Andrew of Ipstones & James Grundi of Foxt parish of Checkley my brother.

With inventory dated 1^st Dec. 1640.

Thomas Grundey of Ipstones husbandman made 16 June 1689 proved 26 Sept. 1689

-to Joyce Grindey my wife my house and backside wherein I know dwell plus goods,chattels & ready money.

-to my eldest son John Grindey the reversion of the house

-to Thomas Grindey my second son £5

-to Richard Bradshaw £3 to be paid within 5 months of my wife's decease and if John does not pay Thomas and Richard £3 upon Joyce's decease then they shall hold the house................further detail here.

Wife Joyce to be executrix

According to the entries I have recorded from the Ipstones parish register transcript in The Tale of Ipstones,Thomas Grundy had children in the parish in the 1640s-on occasions his wife Joyce's name is legible. I have attached a list of all Grundys for a limited period-there is no sign of Clulow Grundy.(From the record of Clulow Grundy's burial in 1728 we gather he would have been born around 1747).Unless further evidence emerges it begins to look as if Clulow did not come from the parish. However I have not as yet looked at the original parish register specifically for his baptism.

I note however that there were Grundys of Foxt listed-since the village is partly in Ipstones and partly in Checkley parish it may be worth checking the records of that parish.I also note the following will which should I think be checked:

  John Grindy Foxt(Checkley) yeoman 29 April 1697

I also note the James Grundy of Foxt is described as the brother of William Grundy who died in 1640.Once again I have not as yet checked the wills index prior to 1640.

  I notice from the staffsnamesindexes website that there are quite a number of Clewlows(as a surname) in Leek and the surrounding area.I think it would also be worth checking these ,as I would imagine that Clulow's unusual christian name came from someone of that name marrying into the family. There are numerous Clulows (of various spelling variants) in my transcript of Leek parish register part 2(incl. Baptisms & marriages from 1695,burials 1678-1707)-I wonder whether you have looked at Volume 1 of the transcript for Clulows/Grindys/Grundys-if not I can easily do so.

I note an intriguing entry in volume 2:

Anne d. of John Grindee of Middle Hulme bur. Sept 1678 affidavit by her father 18 Sep. 1678.

   Since Middle Hulme is a small place it seems very likely there is a connection.

                                                                                                     Sara F.Scargill May 21 2014